Legislature(2019 - 2020)DAVIS 106

03/09/2020 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:13:42 PM Presentation: the Impact of Forever Chemicals
04:06:19 PM Adjourn
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+ Presentation: Impact of Forever Chemicals & the TELECONFERENCED
Health Effects of PFOA & PFOS-Related
Contamination by:
- Rob Bilott, Author of Exposure: Poisoned Water,
Corporate Greed, & One Lawyer's Twenty-Year
Battle Against DuPont
- Alaska Community Action on Toxics
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
      HOUSE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                     
                         March 9, 2020                                                                                          
                           3:12 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tiffany Zulkosky, Chair                                                                                          
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ivy Spohnholz, Vice Chair                                                                                        
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Representative Sharon Jackson                                                                                                   
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:  THE IMPACT OF FOREVER CHEMICALS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT BILOTT, Attorney, Taft, Stettinius & Hollister LLP                                                                       
Cincinnati, Ohio                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented on the Public Health Threat of                                                                 
PFOA & PFOS Contamination.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA MILLER, Executive Director                                                                                               
Alaska Community Action on Toxics                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the presentation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
KELLY McLAUGHLIN                                                                                                                
Gustavus PFAS Action Coalition                                                                                                  
Gustavus, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the presentation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:12:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TIFFANY  ZULKOSKY  called  the  House  Health  and  Social                                                             
Services  Standing  Committee  meeting  to  order  at  3:12  p.m.                                                               
Representatives Zulkosky, Drummond, and  Tarr were present at the                                                               
call to order.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation:  The Impact of Forever Chemicals                                                                               
         Presentation:  The Impact of Forever Chemicals                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:13:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY  announced that the  only order of  business would                                                               
be a presentation on The Impact of Forever Chemicals.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:14:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  BILOTT,  Attorney,  Taft,  Stettinius  &  Hollister  LLP,                                                               
stated  that he  was speaking  in  a personal  capacity to  share                                                               
information he has  collected and brought out to  the public over                                                               
the  last 20  years about  PFAS  chemicals, what  is known  about                                                               
them, what's  known about the  health threat from them,  and what                                                               
can be  done using that  information to  protect the public.   He                                                               
shared  his   background  of  working   on  these   chemicals  in                                                               
litigation  context for  more than  20 years.   He  reported that                                                               
this litigation  had uncovered many  internal documents  from the                                                               
companies  which manufactured  these chemicals,  primarily Dupont                                                               
and 3M.  He added  that these chemicals were completely man-made,                                                               
synthetic materials, which  did not exist prior to  World War II.                                                               
He  pointed  out that  litigation  over  the  past 20  years  had                                                               
resulted in  access to  the internal  studies and  documents from                                                               
Dupont and  3M about PFAS,  which had  not been available  to the                                                               
public,  the  regulators,  or  the   scientific  community.    He                                                               
declared  that, as  the chemicals  were  known to  have a  unique                                                               
structure which  made it almost  impossible to break down  in the                                                               
environment, they  became known as "forever  chemicals" and would                                                               
stay in the water and soil virtually forever.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BILOTT reported the companies  knew these chemicals would get                                                               
into  the  environment.    He  shared  there  had  been  internal                                                               
laboratory toxicity studies on animals,  and later, on humans who                                                               
had been  exposed to the chemicals.   By the 1980s,  it was known                                                               
these chemicals  were toxic,  and caused cancer  in animals.   He                                                               
reiterated  that   the  companies   had  kept   this  information                                                               
internal, and  the regulators and  scientific community  were not                                                               
aware  of  it.    He  shared   that  he  had  contacted  the  EPA                                                               
(Environmental  Protection   Agency)  in  2001  and   asked  that                                                               
appropriate  standards be  set for  these  chemicals in  drinking                                                               
water.  He  emphasized that, 19 years later, there  was still not                                                               
an enforceable, federal drinking water  standard for any of these                                                               
chemicals, even as the EPA  had announced programs for a priority                                                               
review and  action plans in  2002, in 2003,  and 2009.   He noted                                                               
that in 2018  and 2019 there was another statement  by the EPA of                                                               
an  action plan  to  move forward,  yet there  was  still not  an                                                               
enforceable standard by the EPA.   In the meantime, his group had                                                               
been able  to set up,  through a settlement in  2004, independent                                                               
scientists  to  look at  all  the  data  and internal  files  and                                                               
information, while  doing new  studies of  70,000 people  in West                                                               
Virginia and Ohio.   This study had taken place  over more than 7                                                               
years, had  cost more  than $100  million, and  had been  able to                                                               
confirm,  by  2012,  that  PFOA   was  linked  with  6  different                                                               
diseases,  including testicular  cancer,  kidney cancer,  thyroid                                                               
disease, and high cholesterol.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BILOTT  reported these were  some of the  most comprehensive,                                                               
extensive human  health studies  ever done on  any chemical.   It                                                               
was only at  this point in 2012  that the EPA added  PFOA and the                                                               
related PFOS to  the list of chemicals for  public water supplies                                                               
to begin sampling.   Finally, in 2016, the EPA  came out with its                                                               
first guideline  for PFOA and PFOS  in drinking water after  a NY                                                               
Times magazine article summarized  the history and indicated that                                                               
the chemical  was found in  drinking water all over  the country.                                                               
At that  time, states and  public water providers started  to ask                                                               
the  EPA  about  the  safety  level,  and  the  EPA  presented  a                                                               
guideline of no more than 70  parts per trillion.  He pointed out                                                               
that,  once sampling  began using  this  guideline, people  asked                                                               
about the safety  level, as the guideline was  unenforceable.  He                                                               
reported  that  states began  to  set  enforceable standards  for                                                               
these chemicals in  the water and water  providers were incurring                                                               
costs to  clean the water.   States  were reviewing all  the data                                                               
and  were recommending  much lower  numbers  than the  EPA.   The                                                               
regulators were taking  the current information on  PFOA and PFOS                                                               
and applying it  to the broader group of  PFAS chemicals, instead                                                               
of  waiting  for guidelines  from  the  federal government  which                                                               
could still be years away.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:23:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA  MILLER, Executive  Director, Alaska  Community Action  of                                                               
Toxics,  spoke about  the significant  public health  threat from                                                               
PFAS  contamination to  safe drinking  water supplies  in Alaska.                                                               
She urged  immediate legislative action to  prevent further harm,                                                               
to ensure safe drinking water  supplies and responsible clean-up,                                                               
with  measures to  monitor  and protect  the  health of  affected                                                               
community members and  first responders.  She  reported that PFAS                                                               
were  an unregulated  class  of chemicals,  with  more than  5000                                                               
substances  in their  class, and  that  they were  found in  many                                                               
consumer  products, including  industrial firefighting  foams for                                                               
Class  B petroleum  and  chemical fires,  and  electronics.   She                                                               
pointed out that, in Alaska,  the dispersive use of AFFF (Aqueous                                                               
Film Forming Foam)  had resulted in most of  the contamination in                                                               
drinking water  and the environment.   She emphasized  that these                                                               
chemicals were toxic  at exceedingly low levels,  with effects on                                                               
the  immune systems  of  children and  effects  on mammary  gland                                                               
development during breastfeeding.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER declared that there  were not any enforceable drinking                                                               
water standards  in Alaska.  She  offered her belief that  it was                                                               
important for the Alaska State  Legislature to step up to protect                                                               
Alaskans.    She  directed  attention to  a  report  that  showed                                                               
adverse  health  effects  were  found  at up  to  700  times  the                                                               
guidance level established  by EPA, which she defined  as the 0.1                                                               
- 1  parts per trillion.   She emphasized that the  EPA standards                                                               
were  "far from  health protective."   She  reported firefighters                                                               
suffered higher rates  of cancer than the  general population, as                                                               
they were  at risk from the  occupational exposure to PFAS.   She                                                               
shared  a report  titled "Threats  to Drinking  Water and  Public                                                               
Health in Alaska,"  which reviewed thousands of  pages of records                                                               
obtained through  the Freedom of  Information Act and  the Public                                                               
Records request,  as well as  a thorough review  of peer-reviewed                                                               
literature  of health  effects.   She  identified 100  individual                                                               
sites  contaminated with  PFAS, including  33 airports  in Alaska                                                               
which  had   known  or  suspected   release  of  AFFF   into  the                                                               
environment.  She  noted that, of these 33 airports,  only 13 had                                                               
been investigated.   She reported that 10  Alaska communities had                                                               
been identified with PFAS-contaminated  drinking water, at levels                                                               
deemed unsafe even by EPA standards.   She opined that the number                                                               
of communities  with contaminated  water would increase  as there                                                               
was more  sampling.  She  expressed her concern with  the rolling                                                               
back  of  regulations by  the  current  Governor Mike  Dunleavy's                                                               
administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILLER  declared  that  there  were  safe,  effective,  non-                                                               
chlorinated alternatives  for AFFF  firefighting foams,  and that                                                               
these were already in use throughout  the world.  She stated that                                                               
restriction of the  use of AFFF would  stop further contamination                                                               
and harm to the environment, as  well as the high costs of clean-                                                               
up  and associated  liability.   She expressed  a desire  to work                                                               
toward legislation  that was as  protective as possible  from the                                                               
effects  of PFAS.    She recommended  a  class-based approach  to                                                               
setting water  quality standards for  PFAS, as so  many chemicals                                                               
in this  family of chemicals shared  structural and toxicological                                                               
properties.   She  declared that  the goal  should set  a maximum                                                               
contaminant level at  a very low parts per  trillion, even though                                                               
there may  not be any safe  levels of exposure.   She offered her                                                               
belief that,  as the State of  Washington had just passed  a bill                                                               
with the  strongest ban  on PFAS-based  firefighting foam  in the                                                               
United States, it was necessary  for the Alaska State Legislature                                                               
to take similar responsibility.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:30:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY  asked about  the rollback  of regulations  by the                                                               
current administration.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILLER explained  that under  the  administration of  former                                                               
Governor  Bill  Walker there  were  measures  to enact  rules  to                                                               
regulate  and require  testing of  at least  six PFAS  chemicals.                                                               
She  suggested  that  it  was  best to  take  a  class-based  and                                                               
protective approach  in the regulation  of these chemicals.   She                                                               
reported  that  the  administration   of  Governor  Dunleavy  had                                                               
announced  that   there  would  be   a  return  to   the  earlier                                                               
regulations, which  covered only PFOA  and PFOS, and  would defer                                                               
to  the federal  standard.    She offered  her  belief that  this                                                               
federal standard was not protecting health.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:31:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELLY  McLAUGHLIN, Gustavus  PFAS Action  Coalition, pointed  out                                                               
that  the  reversal by  the  Dunleavy  administration was  simply                                                               
implemented and had not been  announced.  She shared that results                                                               
of testing  in Yakutat and  Cordova were  not even released.   It                                                               
was only  then that the Department  of Environmental Conservation                                                               
stated there had been a  return to the federal standards, whereas                                                               
the public  had been under  the impression that a  new regulation                                                               
package had been moving forward.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:32:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER said  that this decision had been at  the objection of                                                               
staff  in  the Department  of  Environmental  Conservation.   She                                                               
shared  a  memo from  staff  working  in the  contaminated  sites                                                               
program, which read, in part:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     the best  way to protect  our citizens of the  State is                                                                    
     not  by  rolling  back   standards;  such  action  goes                                                                    
     against our responsibility  as environmental and health                                                                    
     professionals to ensure the  drinking water of Alaskans                                                                    
     is  safe.   As a  science-based agency,  we must  use a                                                                    
     science-based  approach to  set standards,  investigate                                                                    
     all   potential  contaminated   areas  and   receptors,                                                                    
     require complete  reporting and do  all that we  can to                                                                    
     protect  Alaskans and  the environment  from additional                                                                    
     exposures to PFAS.  To do otherwise, is negligence.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ZULKOSKY  asked if  that  recommendation  from within  the                                                               
Department  of Environmental  Conservation  was received  through                                                               
the public records request.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILLER  replied that  the  writer  had made  the  memorandum                                                               
available to the public.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY asked  if the public comment  period was regarding                                                               
the  Department  of  Environmental  Conservation  addressing  the                                                               
class-based approach to water quality and chemicals.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.   McLAUGHLIN  replied   that   Department  of   Environmental                                                               
Conservation had put  into action a set of five  chemicals with a                                                               
combined  total  to  meet  the  action  level  of  65  parts  per                                                               
trillion.  This  had been put together to react  to the emergency                                                               
and had then put it out for public comment.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY  asked if any  of them  would drink water  with 70                                                               
parts per trillion  of PFAS.  She asked if  they believed the EPA                                                               
standards were stringent enough.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAUGHLIN replied, "no."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BILOTT  offered  his  belief that  the  standards  were  not                                                               
stringent enough.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER reported that the  director of the National Toxicology                                                               
program had  stated that the  70 parts per trillion  was probably                                                               
about 700 times too lax to protect public health.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR   commented  on  agency  staff   working  in                                                               
whistleblower fashion, and the concern for retribution.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:38:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. McLAUGHLIN  referenced two proposed bills,  noting that these                                                               
were  "barely going  to start  dealing with  this problem."   She                                                               
stated  that  using  bottled  water  was  only  a  start,  not  a                                                               
solution, adding that  her property was still  contaminated.  She                                                               
declared the need to stop using PFAS.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ZULKOSKY  asked  for  her   written  testimony  to  better                                                               
understand the situation at her home in Gustavus.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. McLAUGHLIN shared  her story from the  early homestead bought                                                               
by  her  grandparents  in  Gustavus during  the  1960s,  and  its                                                               
subsequent division among their children.   She reported that the                                                               
property  encompassed  an  old  drainage  ditch  from  the  local                                                               
airport when  it was built  in World War II,  to the river.   She                                                               
relayed that,  as PFAS followed  water, it flowed down  the river                                                               
and  through  the  properties  of   all  her  relatives.    After                                                               
discussions  with  her family,  they  contacted  Pam Miller,  and                                                               
began  a  path  of  unity  to  start  the  Gustavus  PFAS  Action                                                               
Coalition.   She  relayed that  their first  action was  a letter                                                               
writing campaign  for public comment  on the  regulation package.                                                               
When  they wrote  to the  Department of  Transportation &  Public                                                               
Facilities  asking that  the foam  be removed  from the  Gustavus                                                               
airport,  they were  informed that  the Gustavus  airport, as  an                                                               
index A  (smaller) airport,  was exempt.   She reported  that the                                                               
coalition began  a pilot study  of 40 residents and  asked people                                                               
for blood  tests.  The  coalition began a limited  animal testing                                                               
program through Alaska Department of  Fish & Game, and she shared                                                               
some of  the results.   She pointed  out that, as  the non-detect                                                               
levels were  fairly high, it  did not  rule out existence  of the                                                               
chemicals.   She stated  that the coalition  was also  working on                                                               
advocacy  and   awareness  and  would   love  to   have  Gustavus                                                               
remediated to  the way  it had  been with  clean soil  and water.                                                               
She  reported  that  the  group was  still  collecting  data  and                                                               
information and  needed more tests  on water and blood  to better                                                               
know the correlation with health effects.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:44:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND asked about AFFF.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. McLAUGHLIN explained  that it was aqueous  film forming foam,                                                               
the main source of contamination.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BILOTT explained  that  these foams  were  usually used  for                                                               
petroleum-based fires.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND asked  whether some  water systems  were                                                               
filtering out these products.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BILOTT   replied  although  it  was   expensive  there  were                                                               
effective  technologies for  the  PFOA and  PFOS  compounds.   He                                                               
reported that these technologies were  put on in-home systems for                                                               
private wells and  had been in operation for more  than a decade.                                                               
He said  that it was  more difficult and required  more expensive                                                               
treatment systems to treat the newer replacement PFAS chemicals.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  asked if  there was  a cost  increase as                                                               
the carbon decreased.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BILOTT explained  that the  carbon essentially  captured the                                                               
PFOS and  filtered it out of  the water, and then  the carbon was                                                               
regenerated.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ZULKOSKY  asked  how  many   individuals  were  tested  in                                                               
Gustavus and how this testing was  sponsored and paid.  She asked                                                               
for more information on the animal testing.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. McLAUGHLIN  explained that  the Alaska  Department of  Fish &                                                               
Game  had been  interested in  funding the  animal testing.   She                                                               
reported  that the  blood testing  had been  sponsored through  a                                                               
grant from  the Alaska Community  Action of Toxics with  "lots of                                                               
volunteer hours."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER explained  that free analytical work  had been offered                                                               
by  Indiana  University.   She  shared  information from  another                                                               
community-based  research project  for PFAS  chemicals in  people                                                               
with  no  source of  firefighting  foam  in the  drinking  water,                                                               
indicating long-range transport.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY asked  where the testing had been  done in Alaska,                                                               
where it still needed to  be done, what resources were necessary,                                                               
and what collaboration existed with  the Department of Health and                                                               
Social Services.   She noted  that some communities  were reliant                                                               
on the collection of water from a local well or water system.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER  offered her belief  that this was just  the beginning                                                               
stages of water  testing, even though the  military had performed                                                               
water  testing downstream  and around  military bases  in Alaska.                                                               
She  shared that  Department  of  Environmental Conservation  had                                                               
plans to test  places where use of AFFF was  known.  She reported                                                               
that the  Agency for  Toxic Substances  and Disease  Registry had                                                               
started a human biomonitoring project  for people living in Moose                                                               
Creek,  affected by  PFAS contamination  from the  nearby Eielson                                                               
Air Force  Base.  She added  that there had also  been studies in                                                               
the  Circumpolar  Arctic which  showed  long  range transport  of                                                               
these  chemicals.   She  stated  that,  as  there had  been  very                                                               
limited  testing  of  fish  tissue  and  other  traditional  food                                                               
sources, there should  be another priority as two  lakes had been                                                               
shut down to fishing because of high levels of PFAS.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BILOTT reported that some  states had issued fish consumption                                                               
advisories and deer hunting advisories  after testing showed high                                                               
levels of these chemicals.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:52:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. McLAUGHLIN  reported that the  water of Kimberly  Lake, which                                                               
had been shut  down, was 122 parts per trillion.   She noted that                                                               
in 9  months, the  fish, which  had been  stocked clean  into the                                                               
lake,  had accumulated  about  90,000 parts  per  trillion.   She                                                               
emphasized that animals uptake very quickly.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND asked how to improve contaminated soil.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  McLAUGHLIN  said that  remediation,  which  was removal  and                                                               
replacement, was not  cost effective.  She shared  what was being                                                               
done in Fairbanks,  that an activated carbon  liquid was injected                                                               
into the ground which absorbed the incoming PFAS.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR asked  what was  the most  strategic way  to                                                               
spend money while trying to keep the most people healthy.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BILOTT shared  that there had previously  been arguments that                                                               
there was  insufficient human data  to show the impacts  of these                                                               
chemicals.  He declared that,  when dealing with chemicals linked                                                               
with rare  health outcomes, it  was necessary to have  very large                                                               
data  sets, with  large populations,  to conduct  the studies  to                                                               
confirm  these effects.    He  shared that  the  studies in  West                                                               
Virginia  and Ohio  used $70  million  from Dupont  to start  the                                                               
testing,  and then  another $35  million to  do the  epidemiology                                                               
studies from  this data.  He  pointed out that by  already having                                                               
this data, it was possible to move forward to protect people.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:57:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ZULKOSKY asked  for action  recommendations  at the  state                                                               
level to make drinking water safe.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER  declared that  first it was  necessary to  set health                                                               
protective, enforceable  drinking water standards.   Then, it was                                                               
necessary  to ensure  that  those  who had  been  exposed to  low                                                               
levels  be  provided  with  safe drinking  water  sources.    She                                                               
expressed  her concern  for the  Fairbanks area  which had  seven                                                               
major source areas of these chemicals.   She added that no longer                                                               
allowing the  use of firefighting  foam would  "go a long  way to                                                               
prevent further harm."  She stated  that it was necessary to have                                                               
effective clean-up and health protective technologies.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. McLAUGHLIN  declared that the  starting point would be  a low                                                               
parts per trillion maximum contamination level.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. BILOTT  stated that  it was critically  important to  have an                                                               
enforceable standard.  He emphasized  that people should not have                                                               
to get a lawyer in order to have safe drinking water.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER shared that there  were a series of recommendations in                                                               
the  report, "Threats  to  Drinking Water  and  Public Health  in                                                               
Alaska."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND   asked  how   to  set   drinking  water                                                               
standards.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILLER replied  that  there were  good  precedents in  other                                                               
states,  including the  State of  Michigan, and  that some  other                                                               
states were  taking a class-based  approach for a very  low parts                                                               
per trillion  level on  combined contaminants.   She  opined that                                                               
there may not be a safe level of exposure.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ZULKOSKY asked  if  there was  anything to  be  done if  a                                                               
person tested positive for these chemicals.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. McLAUGHLIN said  that "information is power" and  that it was                                                               
necessary for people to know their  "body burden."  She said that                                                               
the  House Health  and Social  Services Standing  Committee could                                                               
pass legislation to educate doctors in Alaska.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BILOTT expressed his agreement  that education was key as was                                                               
making the resources  and information available.   He reported on                                                               
a subsequent panel  of independent medical doctors,  in 2013, who                                                               
reviewed  appropriate  medical  testing and  recommendations  for                                                               
exposure to  these chemicals.   He pointed out that  most medical                                                               
professionals  had not  heard of  PFAS and  did not  know to  ask                                                               
questions or do tests.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY  reflected on the  high levels  of bioaccumulation                                                               
in subsistence foods.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:06:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Health and Social Services Standing Committee meeting was                                                                       
adjourned at 4:06 p.m.                                                                                                          

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